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25 out of 35 people found the following review useful:
An irritating anti-war fable..., 17 September 2002
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Author:
ironside (robertfrangie@hotmail.com) from Mexico
Similar to Ingmar Bergman's 'Shame' is Godard's powerful parable of
war, 'The Riflemen.'
Godard has stated that 'In dealing with war, I followed a very simple
rule. I assumed I had to explain to children not only what war is, but
what all wars have been from the barbarian invasions to Korean and
Algeria, by way of Fontenoy, Trafalgar, and Gettysburg.'
Michelange and Ulysse leave the women when the king's officers come
enlist them... They are offered everything... 'Can we loot, burn, rape
etc. etc
'Yes. You can do anything you want,' they are assured... So
with rifles on their backs they are off to war...
Like Bergman's film there is no enemy... Both sides wear the same
uniform, talk the same language and have the same objectives... Nothing
is left out of the film, the hate, the humiliation, the rape, but above
all we are impressed by the unending and unrelieved scenery of
destruction... There is nothing that is natural or alive in the world
of rubble...
19 out of 24 people found the following review useful:
An Ugly Film on an Ugly Subject, 7 July 2004
Author:
Chris Bright from London
While this is certainly not Godard's most enjoyable work some of the
negative comments here are world-class examples of point-missing.
Godard had already shown with "A Bout de Soufflé" and "Vivre Sa Vie"
that he knew how to make a film with style, romance and flair.
Therefore it's clear that the crude editing and sound dubbing,
continuity lapses, bad acting and overall cheapness on display here
were deliberate.
What we seem to have here is "War for Dummies". Godard spells things
out as if talking to backward children and absolutely refuses to invest
his subject and his protagonists with any sort of spectacle or dignity,
both by giving us moronic and unsympathetic characters and by refusing
the audience any catharsis or vicarious pleasure.
Francois Truffaut once said that no war movie can be truly anti-war,
since the camera automatically aestheticizes its subject. Godard here
goes all-out to disprove that thesis.This does of course make the film
hard to watch but it's a deliberate slap in the face, not the result of
incompetence.
Incidents from many wars are parodied - for example scenes of the women
having their hair cut off refer to the treatment of French women who
had consorted with Germans during the Occupation. "America" is
represented by a car with tail fins and some French tower blocks, in a
prefiguring of "Alphaville"s approach to location. Apparently the
letters used as intertitles are genuine letters home from French troops
in various conflicts, although this does not seem to be made clear in
the film.
I tend to agree that this is a film for Godard completists only and
certainly not the best place to start with his work. The best
comparison to make would be with Alfred Jarry's "Ubu Roi" which takes
the same crude approach, and apparently the project started life as a
stage play.
See "Weekend" for a similar approach to 'peace', only with a lot more
fun and games.
13 out of 16 people found the following review useful:
don't expect breathless the sequel, 13 April 2004
Author:
lolita27 from Pretentious City
throughout his work in the early to mid-sixties, jean luc godard rode the
nouvelle vague by employing and twisting the classic features of a
specific
film genre. examples of this are his sci-fi (alphaville), and his
beloved
gangster film (breathless).
when examining les carabiniers, his take on the war movie, one must see
godard's purpose in two parts; one, as an anti-war movie, and two, as an
anti-war-movie movie.
that is, in addition to the visual social commentary which displays the
standard horrific shots of dismemberment and destruction, godard uses the
structural components of his film as a whole to mock films along the lines
of 'private ryan'.
this means that he refuses to use the concept of war as something that
will
prove to provide the viewer with any degree of vicarious pleasure, whether
that pleasure be derived from identification with a noble lead (which is
surely why he has ulysses and michelangelo be such jackasses), beautiful
glimmering visuals, (hence the low-caliber film stock), or enjoyable
montage and pacing (akin to the conclusive lengthy postcard recounting).
to end this brief rebuff to those who compare this film to tomb raider, i
will quote critic david steritt, who states that in les carabiniers,
godard
refuses to turn aggression into commodification.
21 out of 32 people found the following review useful:
amazing. 9/10, 28 April 2001
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Author:
zetes from Saint Paul, MN
What can you say? It's Godard. If you appreciate Godard, his early stuff,
particularly, Les Carabiniers fits in perfectly with films such as
Breathless, My Life to Live, Une femme est une femme, Band of Outsiders,
and
Pierrot le fou. It is utterly complicated, and seems to be saying dozens of
things at once, none of them becoming clear enough to formulate a
satisfactory thesis.
The film starts off with two brothers and their wives living in a shack in
the middle of nowhere. Two carabiniers (riflemen) arrive, basically
assaulting the four of them. They come with a proposition, though: join the
army, be one of them. You get to travel everywhere, and you can do anything
you want. What a proposition! The two men join, leaving their wives
(tellingly named Cleopatra and Venus) at the shack.
What follows is a fantastical account of war. The characters speak French,
but they don't seem to be meant to be any specific nationality. Their
supreme commander is "The King." They travel around the world, including
Egypt and the USA, killing whoever gets in their way. They play sickening
games with their victims. Why? Because they can. They have guns, their
victims don't. Between the scenes where our heroes reak havoc, Godard
inserts stock footage of real wars. Over the fictional footage, Godard
inserts the sound of explosions and gunfire. This lack of realism creates a
stunning surrealism.
At first, I was thinking the film was about the fact that your average
soldier is an ignoramous with a deadly weapon. Transferred, this speaks
illy
of the government who willingly supplies its young morons with deadly
weapons. One particularly hilarious scene (yes, it has elements of comedy,
too) which shows these folks to be country bumpkins occurs when one,
Michelangelo, attends a movie, his first ever. It begins with a train
arriving at a station, a la L'Arrivée d'un train à la Ciotat, a Lumiere
film
made in 1895, often regarded as the first film ever made (though it wasn't,
not even by the Lumieres). Michelangelo covers his face as it moves
forwards
on screen, as everyone has heard the first movie patrons ever did (which
isn't true, either). The film he watches moves on to a scene where a woman
undresses and takes a bath. Michelangelo is so impressed, he jumps up and
tries to jump into the action, a la Buster Keaton's Sherlock Jr. The
results
are hilarious. I don't think this theme holds up through the whole film,
but, c'est le Godard!
Further on, it seems to take more of a Marxist viewpoint (I believe Godard
was a Marxist at this point in his career). Two communists ambush the
carabiniers at one point, claiming that, though they may be allied with the
carabiners' country, they are obliged ideologically to murder capitalists.
Here I realized that a large number of aggressive nations during this time
were capitalist. Later, near the end, a very long scene serves to criticize
capitalism: the boys return home, saying that they have gathered everything
in the world for their girlfriends. Yet they carry nothing but one
suitcase.
Here commences the longest single scene in the film, where the men reveal
the contents of their suitcase. They have not collected everything on
Earth,
per se, but rather photographs of them. For one thing, this depicts
Godard's
main objective in life: to make us realize that we are watching a film, not
involved in any sort of reality. With just photos, the lack of the real
objects is even more ironic. Also, most of these objects photographed are
objects that can never be owned: natural wonders, man-made wonders, and
tons
and tons of women, including ones long since dead. This petty ownership of
photos (they also call them deeds) is a reductio ad absurdum for
capitalism:
the most important things in the world are unownable, and thus to own
pictures of them is truly absurd.
18 out of 27 people found the following review useful:
Why ?, 8 August 2004
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Author:
grizzli-2 (grizzli@free.fr) from Paris
I don't understand how or why this movie was so much criticized. I just saw it on DVD and found it excellent. It's completely different of what Godard usually does : I tend to be a little disturbed by his systematic use of quotations (a good example is the recent "Eloge de l'amour"), and there is no such thing in "Les Carabiniers". The dialogs are completely pure, and there is a very clever use of enumerations, which seldom happens in a movie. Great scenes, like when the girl demands to tell a poem before she's executed, when Michel-Ange discovers the cinema, when Ulysse and Michel-Ange show Cléopâtre and Vénus the treasures they brought back from war... It's simple and beautiful.
10 out of 14 people found the following review useful:
Effectively captures both reality and unreality of war (Spoilers), 30 November 2004
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Author:
gabriel_morrison from london, england
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
One of the main things to bear in mind when watching Les Carabiniers is
the context in which the film was made. Le Mépris, widely regarded as
Godard's finest film, was made in the same year 1963; and it is clear
in Le Mépris how much time was spent to attain perfection in
composition. So Les Carabiniers can be seen as something of an
experiment a rough and ready look at one of life's grittiest subjects,
war, a stark contrast to the passion of Le Mépris.
The intertitles play a very important role in the film, both enabling
communication between the soldiers and their wives and giving an
important sense of passing time. The handwriting used gives a sense of
personal feeling but at the same time the often short and factual text
always addressed 'On', as if the feelings of both brothers can be
captured in a few words, renders them highly impersonal. The other
interesting quirk is the final intertitle being handwritten despite it
clearly not being written by the brothers making it almost an epitaph.
The cohesive device of postcards is important in the film, one is used
to encourage the brothers to join, the postcards that are acquired by
the end of their service are for them the riches of the world and the
way in which they are thrown into the air makes them seem almost like
the money they are seeking in a scene borrowed from heist films. Godard
also uses the postcard collection to be a brief encyclopedia of the
world through methods of transport, animals, monuments etc. ultimately
trivialising it though into something only worth a few seconds of
attention.
The slightly broader device of images and art is seen throughout the
film, the vanity in the wives created by the magazines is clearly
frowned upon; their names Cleopatre and Venus clearly demonstrating
what they aspire to. The excitement with which they greet the new
magazines and subsequent humour when the underwear adverts are held up
to their bodies demonstrates a clear disdain for the materialism which
they encourage. The artwork that the brothers see in a house that they
pillage however is treated with the utmost respect, and Michel-Ange
utters the words "un soldat salut un artiste". This really means two
things, that contemporary popular life contributes nothing to culture,
and maybe a personal comment from Godard on the necessity of education
in artistic appreciation.
The anti-materialistic message can also be seen in the attitude of the
wives, in encouraging their husbands to go and fight and in their
reception of their husbands on their return, asking first of all where
their treasures are.
The mis en scene plays a very important role in the atmosphere of the
film; the techniques used being almost the antithesis of the polished
style of Hollywood. The camera is virtually never static and Godard
appears not to have used a tripod on the whole even in the establishing
shots, this gives the film a sense of realism and almost documentary
style where the camera is following the action as it happens. The poor
quality film stock adds to this, shunning both colour and resolution to
give an unglamourous view of war.
The editing of the film is also very unusual; some cuts seem to break
down the continuation of relation that is understood in the grammar of
cinema. One of the slightly odder examples is when Ulysses is seen in a
medium close-up firing his rifle into the air there is then a cut to
library footage of plane taken from another plane, and a quick cut back
to Ulysses suggesting that he was firing at the plane when the images
seem so clearly disassociated. Another example is when one of the
carabiniers at the end of the film says "Je vais vous expliquer" in a
shot where he can be seen with the two brothers in a medium shot,
there's then an edit with a few empty frames and a close up of the
carabinier repeating the same line. The sound is very often dubbed a
few frames too soon or late and there is often no sound at all when
ambient sound would be appropriate. The disjointed nature seems to be a
distinct and deliberate effort to make the filming of war as brutal as
possible.
The reality of the war is something quite interesting and strange in
the film as only two of the enemy soldiers are seen during the first 45
minutes of the film, there are however many seemingly innocent
civilians harassed and killed. In fact the only time that actual fire
fights are seen taking place is after the war is over for the two
brothers and they are out to get their rewards, the only point at which
they no longer have their rifles. The scene in which they are killed by
one of the carabiniers suddenly reverses the contempt the audience has
towards the brothers in that they have only signed up as mercenaries
with no care to what they are doing, seeking to use to army to fulfill
their material desires. It is then clear that in fact they have been
used to satisfy the desire of the king, and this leaves a very bitter
taste in the mouths of the audience.
The film is however not entirely depressing, and the scene in which
Michel-Ange discovers cinema is one of the most enjoyable. The film was
described by one critic at the time a homage to Lumière's films, and
while it can be seen in the visual style throughout the film, the short
in which a train can be seen entering a station and provokes a reaction
of fear from Michel-Ange is a more direct link. The scene in which he
falls through the screen while trying to interact with the film, is
something that anyone who has ever seen a film will understand and
sympathies with, conveying a palpable sense of naivety.
There are many quirks in the film that are never really explained but
serve to illustrate the bizarre situations that war creates. The
sequence with the Mexican woman, the fireworks display filmed in
negative, the mysterious other man with the wives who scurries away
upon the return of the brothers and the poem recited by the girl in
front of the firing squad.
Using a combination of humour, the march down the frozen river, and
pathos, the newsreel footage of dead soldiers, Godard effectively
conveys the reality and unreality of war and most importantly in the
end how no one benefits.
12 out of 19 people found the following review useful:
one of the best anti-war films made.Vive la France!, 1 November 2003
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Author:
leybarsinister from Roseville, MN
What an amazing film.From the opening notes of the military march, to the final scene,this is a harrowing ride through the landscapes of "soldiers pay."There is nothing slick or overproduced here,thank Godard. The use of actual letters from French soldiers in wars from 1812 to ww2, is a masterstroke that effectively ties the scenes together.This could be a documentary and is done in this style.This works very well with the vintage newsreel images that are also used to tie the scenes.If you are looking for a RAMBO type war -adventure,go rent a Chuck Norris film.If you are a serious fan of the war/anti-war genre,do not miss this one!
4 out of 6 people found the following review useful:
Effectively captures both reality and unreality of war, 30 November 2004
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Author:
gabriel_morrison from london, england
One of the main things to bear in mind when watching Les Carabiniers is
the context in which the film was made. Le Mépris, widely regarded as
Godard's finest film, was made in the same year 1963; and it is clear
in Le Mépris how much time was spent to attain perfection in
composition. So Les Carabiniers can be seen as something of an
experiment a rough and ready look at one of life's grittiest subjects,
war, a stark contrast to the passion of Le Mépris.
The intertitles play a very important role in the film, both enabling
communication between the soldiers and their wives and giving an
important sense of passing time. The handwriting used gives a sense of
personal feeling but at the same time the often short and factual text
always addressed 'On', as if the feelings of both brothers can be
captured in a few words, renders them highly impersonal. The other
interesting quirk is the final intertitle being handwritten despite it
clearly not being written by the brothers making it almost an epitaph.
The cohesive device of postcards is important in the film, one is used
to encourage the brothers to join, the postcards that are acquired by
the end of their service are for them the riches of the world and the
way in which they are thrown into the air makes them seem almost like
the money they are seeking in a scene borrowed from heist films. Godard
also uses the postcard collection to be a brief encyclopedia of the
world through methods of transport, animals, monuments etc. ultimately
trivialising it though into something only worth a few seconds of
attention.
The slightly broader device of images and art is seen throughout the
film, the vanity in the wives created by the magazines is clearly
frowned upon; their names Cleopatre and Venus clearly demonstrating
what they aspire to. The excitement with which they greet the new
magazines and subsequent humour when the underwear adverts are held up
to their bodies demonstrates a clear disdain for the materialism which
they encourage. The artwork that the brothers see in a house that they
pillage however is treated with the utmost respect, and Michel-Ange
utters the words "un soldat salut un artiste". This really means two
things, that contemporary popular life contributes nothing to culture,
and maybe a personal comment from Godard on the necessity of education
in artistic appreciation.
The anti-materialistic message can also be seen in the attitude of the
wives, in encouraging their husbands to go and fight and in their
reception of their husbands on their return, asking first of all where
their treasures are.
The mis en scene plays a very important role in the atmosphere of the
film; the techniques used being almost the antithesis of the polished
style of Hollywood. The camera is virtually never static and Godard
appears not to have used a tripod on the whole even in the establishing
shots, this gives the film a sense of realism and almost documentary
style where the camera is following the action as it happens. The poor
quality film stock adds to this, shunning both colour and resolution to
give an unglamourous view of war.
The editing of the film is also very unusual; some cuts seem to break
down the continuation of relation that is understood in the grammar of
cinema. One of the slightly odder examples is when Ulysses is seen in a
medium close-up firing his rifle into the air there is then a cut to
library footage of plane taken from another plane, and a quick cut back
to Ulysses suggesting that he was firing at the plane when the images
seem so clearly disassociated. Another example is when one of the
carabiniers at the end of the film says "Je vais vous expliquer" in a
shot where he can be seen with the two brothers in a medium shot,
there's then an edit with a few empty frames and a close up of the
carabinier repeating the same line. The sound is very often dubbed a
few frames too soon or late and there is often no sound at all when
ambient sound would be appropriate. The disjointed nature seems to be a
distinct and deliberate effort to make the filming of war as brutal as
possible.
The reality of the war is something quite interesting and strange in
the film as only two of the enemy soldiers are seen during the first 45
minutes of the film, there are however many seemingly innocent
civilians harassed and killed. In fact the only time that actual fire
fights are seen taking place is after the war is over for the two
brothers and they are out to get their rewards, the only point at which
they no longer have their rifles. The scene in which they are killed by
one of the carabiniers suddenly reverses the contempt the audience has
towards the brothers in that they have only signed up as mercenaries
with no care to what they are doing, seeking to use to army to fulfill
their material desires. It is then clear that in fact they have been
used to satisfy the desire of the king, and this leaves a very bitter
taste in the mouths of the audience.
The film is however not entirely depressing, and the scene in which
Michel-Ange discovers cinema is one of the most enjoyable. The film was
described by one critic at the time a homage to Lumière's films, and
while it can be seen in the visual style throughout the film, the short
in which a train can be seen entering a station and provokes a reaction
of fear from Michel-Ange is a more direct link. The scene in which he
falls through the screen while trying to interact with the film, is
something that anyone who has ever seen a film will understand and
sympathies with, conveying a palpable sense of naivety.
There are many quirks in the film that are never really explained but
serve to illustrate the bizarre situations that war creates. The
sequence with the Mexican woman, the fireworks display filmed in
negative, the mysterious other man with the wives who scurries away
upon the return of the brothers and the poem recited by the girl in
front of the firing squad.
Using a combination of humour, the march down the frozen river, and
pathos, the newsreel footage of dead soldiers, Godard effectively
conveys the reality and unreality of war and most importantly in the
end how no one benefits.
4 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
a film that challenges audience's expectations to the conventions of a war film, 2 March 2006
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Author:
MisterWhiplash from United States
One of Godard's better films from the 60's, which like a number of his
films from his prime era is usually either liked a lot or detested to
hell, is almost audience-dividing on purpose. His film is a black
comedy that sometimes is (successfully) deceptively a bleak drama of
corruption of the working man in times of War. Stylistically it is
Godard all the way, though one can't disregard the likely significant
contributions (though it may be hard to detect since it IS Godard's
mouth all over the pie so to speak) of screenwriters Jean Gurault
(usually Truffaut's co-writer), and (apparently) Roberto Rossellini.
Rossellini, who was one of Godard's big influences, is countered by
what was also a big influence likely on this picture, Samuel Fuller,
the king of B War pictures. So one could look at the quasi-split of
ideals in the film, of Rossellini's documentary style of telling it
like it is, crossed with Fuller's hard professionalism and
no-holds-barred view of War. Whomever influence comes through stronger,
this is really Godard's show, and has here something that is fairly
usual in terms of his challenging styles and criticizing past films
(including Truffaut with his own comments on War depicted in film), but
also is unique for how it is presented, and makes it a difficult,
though rewarding experience. This is the French new-wave equivalent, to
put it another way, to Sam Mendes's Jarhead; you're not sure if this
really should be classified as a typical 'war' film, despite being in a
league of other films already in place.
One thing that is as fascinating as it is occasionally frustrating is
Godard's main male actors, Albert Muross and Marino Mase, are not very
expressive, and of course are not really 'actors' in the traditional
sense (at least at the time they were close to un-professionals). But
maybe that is what's needed, dumb farm boys who are propogandized into
going to fight for their invading, nameless country; the opening scenes
of the list of things the men will get is equally funny and troubling.
Then the boys go off to war, and there is a really astute episodic kind
of storytelling used, which works considering the short time length.
One scene that really stood out was when one of the soldiers goes to
see his first film ever, and is almost like some kind of primate seeing
a woman disrobing on a screen (it's also arguably the funniest scene in
the film). When the boys come home they are loaded with pictures, in a
scene that is the one that almost had me questioning if it was either
really good or really too long; the length of the list of pictures is
like a litmus test for moviegoers- can you take all of these images,
done almost to make a point that's not too clear?
But what makes Les Carabiniers work for me is how it is so un-like
other war films that it stands alone on its own terms, like a French
new-wave Dr. Strangelove (though maybe not a masterpiece like that
one). At times I wasn't totally sure where the satire started or ended,
and there is a certain distance that Godard places with his many
long-shots getting in as much landscape as tanks and soldiers with
their guns. What's surprising is how the tone is always assured, which
is crucial considering this is a story told through the side of the
invaders this time, men working under their elusive King for land and
riches and wealth. One of the best scenes I may have seen in any Godard
film is when they have a woman who is at first thought to be 'a friend'
of the soldiers, but then goes off on a Leninist rant. The men are
about to shoot her, but can't for a few minutes, as the words she says
strike some kind of chord in their primal mindsets. Amid montages of
archive footage of planes flying and bombs dropping, there's a scene
that would never ever be in any 'conventional' war picture. There's a
real thought process going on here, and even if it's got some of
Godard's usual 'f*** you, it's my style, take it or leave it' attitude,
it's not totally un-accessible either. It's a slim volume of gritty
anti-War pathos, and it's maybe a tad under-rated in the director's
massive catalog.
1 out of 2 people found the following review useful:
War Is Swell, 22 June 2012
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Author:
wes-connors from Earth
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
Two soldiers arrive in a poor, desolate French-speaking area. They
initially threaten, then announce "The King" needs troops for war.
Recruited into service are taller, cigar-smoking Marino Mase (as
Ulysses) and shorter, cigarette-smoking Albert Juross (as Michel-Ange).
The brothers are promised cars, women and all imaginable riches will be
their reward for service. Moreover, being war soldiers allows them to
steal slot machines, break a kid's arm, burn towns, and massacre
innocent people. They will even be allowed to eat at restaurants and
not pay. The new soldiers happily start out killing people, but get
world-weary after three years of service. When the war ends, the men
own postcards of the world's landmarks. Lastly, they receive a
surprise...
Jean-Luc Godard essays a point-of-view more accomplished elsewhere.
Granted, some famous critics have praised this one. The scene involving
Michel-Ange's first visit to a cinema was the highlight. He wants to
get a better look at a blonde in her bathtub. This scene can be removed
from the film without altering the narrative in the slightest; enjoy it
as a short.
***** Les carabiniers (5/31/63) Jean-Luc Godard ~ Marino Mase, Albert
Juross, Genevieve Galea, Catherine Ribeiro
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