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16 out of 22 people found the following review useful:
Marx Brothers at half speed - and Douglas proves a comic, 20 July 2004
Author:
theowinthrop from United States
Groucho Marx, in one of the interviews in Richard Anobile's book about the
brothers, admitted that the films after the death of Irving Thalberg (he
meant after A Day At The Races) were not his favorite, and he considered
them the team's worst films. This is not a totally fair evaluation. Two of
the films (Room Service and A Night in Casablanca) were as good as
Horsefeathers or Animal Crackers. But it must be admitted that At The
Circus, Go West, The Big Store, and Love Happy (not to say their unfortunate
solo performances in The Story of Mankind)were below par Marx. All had good
moments in them - but only moments. If one can cut these films to only
highlight their highlights the resulting anthology film would be almost as
good as Room Service and A Night in Casablanca.
Groucho is Wolf J. Flywheel in this film - one of his catchiest pseudonyms.
Like his later, tamer film role as Sam Grunion in Love Happy, he is a
detective. Like Grunion he is living a hand to mouth existance, owing rent.
In the last moments of the film Charles Lane forcibly reposes his car, an
ancient vehicle (for 1941 America) with the sign, "Welcome Admiral Dewey,
Hero of Manilla" on the back - the battle of Manilla Bay was in 1898, and
the car looks like it just arrived on the scene before Dewey died in 1917.
Groucho is therefore definitely interested in impressing and romancing his
normal foil, Margaret Dumont, for financial security. In the end they and
Harpo are in the car as it is towed away.
It was not the first time that Groucho played a character named Flywheel.
In the missing year of 1934, while he and his brothers left Paramount after
Duck Soup failed (and when Zeppo decided to become an agent rather than a
straight man - a wise decision as he was a very successful agent), Groucho
and Chico made a series of radio programs about a firm of shyster lawyers,
Flywheel, Shyster, and Flywheel. The tapes of these broadcasts no longer
exist (apparently) but the scripts have been published. Many of their
routines appear to have been used in these scripts, which are funny. One
hopes the tapes will still manage to turn up one day.
The best moments in the film are those dealing with Groucho trying to
impress Dumont, and his confrontations with Douglass Dumbrille, as the
conniving, pompous store manager Grover. Harpo's fantasy moment with two
other Harpos playing a trio is fine. Chico really does not do too well in
the film - nothing in particular standing out. This is not enough to
sustain the film, until the final ten minutes.
The brothers have photographed Grover paying two goons to
assassinate
Tony Martin (the heir to Dumont, the owner of the store - Dumbrille wants to
marry her to get control of the store). Dumbrille tries to get the photo
back, and chases the brothers through the deserted departments of the store.
Douglas Dumbrille was a recognizeable movie villain throughout the 1930s and
1940s. He appeared opposite Crosby and Hope in Road to Utopia, and opposite
Abbott and Costello in Lost in a Harem. In such roles he usually just gave
the normally competent straight dramatic villainy that he gave in such films
as Treasure Island (he was Israel Hands, who tries to kill Jackie Cooper/Jim
Hawkins). But it was different with the Brothers, as he appeared in two
films with them. He had played Morgan, the racetrack owner in A Day at the
Races. Dumbrille was not the only actor who played in several Marx Brother
films - Walter Woolf King was Gasparri in A Night at the Opera and was one
of the two villains in Go West. Sig Ruman was Herman Gottlieb
in
A Night at the Opera, Dr. Leopold X. Steimetz in A Day at the Races, and
Hans Stubel (the Nazi War Criminal in hiding) in A Night in Casablanca.
Margaret Dumont appeared in seven Marx films, and Thelma Todd in
Horsefeathers and Monkey Business. Ruman, Dumont, and Todd were all expert
comic actors, and perfect foils for the brothers. King was okay, but no
more. But Dumbrille was the interesting repeater in the bunch.
In A Day at the Races, Dumbrille had little to do, except to threaten Harpo
for not throwing a race, and looking apoplectic while the brothers demolish
his racetrack to prevent a race from occuring before their missing horse can
be found. As such, his performance there is little different from his
performance in Road to Utopia or Lost in a Harem. But the conclusion of The
Big Store is different. Here, he steals the chase from the stars of the
film
It is true that by 1941 the brothers were too old for the stunts needed -
and so they use doubles (compare it to Go West a year before, where they
still do some of their own stunt work). In some of the tumbles Grover is
supposed to take, one can see that Dumbrille has a double too. But the
difference is that the director noted that Dumbrille's unsmiling, stiff face
can be used to punctuate what a ridiculous figure he could become. For he
does become ridiculous, despite the grave reason for his chasing the
brothers. Suddenly he has to do such ridiculous things as ride a bicycle in
the store (a kid's bike at that) while wearing his floorwalker outfit) to
catch the brothers who are on skates. He puts on skates too at one point,
and falls into a counter full of ladies hats. He disappears behind the
counter, and raises his head to show he is wearing a lady's hat with a
flower on top. It's a priceless image, for his expression has not
changed.
It is Dumbrille who makes the forced chase worth watching - it was (perhaps)
his finest moment as a comic actor. I wonder if the brothers
(especially the critical Groucho) ever stopped to realize how they
had
briefly abdicated their movie to a supporting player.
10 out of 11 people found the following review useful:
The Big Store (1941) **, 1 August 2004
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Author:
JoeKarlosi from U.S.A.
This latter Marx Bros. comedy still contains some vintage moments
between Groucho and his longtime foil Margaret Dumont, with good comic
dialogue written for Groucho once again. The scene where she visits his
office to hire him as a detective, as he and Harpo pull off a ruse by
making it appear that Groucho's not a starving nobody but a first-class
private eye, is as good as anything I've seen in their other pictures.
Things get bogged down later with musical numbers (I mean, what else is
new?), but I was impressed by many of the sets in the grand department
store.
Some good, some not-so-good.
10 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Not great, but has its moments, 21 December 2001
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Author:
zetes from Saint Paul, MN
The Big Store is not one of the Marx Brothers' best films, but it's worth watching once. Groucho still delivers a few good one-liners and insults to Margaret Dumont. Harpo and Chico have some good scenes (watch as an Italian immigrant accuses Chico of mocking his accent!). I actually think that the musical numbers in this one are wonderful, except for those by Tony Rogers, one of the many love interest duds who grace the Brothers' flicks. Maltin's right: The Tenement Symphony is a suicide-inducing number, and easily a low point in all of the Marx Brothers' films, except for the entire running time of Love Happy. But there's a great song and dance number when Groucho first enters the store. You have to catch the woman singing a jazzed-up version of Rock-a-bye Baby; I have never seen a more eerily emotionless visage on a human being. It's creepy and oddly beautiful. Chico and Harpo perform an awesome piano duet. There's also a scene where four young kids play the piano like Chico, which is very charming. And Harpo's harp sequence is pretty good (he plays Mozart on the harp, and then his two reflections accompany him with other, various string instruments). The final chase sequence is rather annoying. The Marx Brothers' fall came about when their films started overutilizing special effects, fast motion, and sound effects to enhance the comedy. Still, The Big Store is not a disaster, by any means. 7/10.
9 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Confusing plot, too often flat, and frequently absent Marx Brothers, but a few hilarious scenes, 11 June 2005
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Author:
Brandt Sponseller from New York City
While I disagree with the conventional wisdom about the Marx Brothers'
film made before The Big Store, Go West (1940), believing it to be yet
another one of their many masterpieces, I have to agree with the
conventional wisdom about The Big Store. It has the feeling of a
contractual obligation film. One, two or all three of the Marx Brothers
are absent for long periods of time. The story is often confusing. The
film doesn't flow very well. Some of the material featuring other
performers simply doesn't work. Even when it does work, it's never as
good as the Marx Brothers' material, and even their work is too often
strangely flat.
The Big Store is really the story of Tommy Rogers (played by famed pop
singer Tony Martin). Rogers has just gained partial ownership of the
Phelps Department store with the passing of a relative. However, he's
not interested in the store, so he plans to sell and use the money to
build a state of the art music conservatory in conjunction with his
friend, Ravelli (Chico Marx). Unfortunately, not everything at the
Phelps store has been on the up and up, and surviving store manager Mr.
Grover (Douglass Dumbrille) is worried about buyers discovering their
creative bookkeeping. So they try to off Tommy, which leads to hiring
private detective Wolf J. Flywheel (Groucho Marx) and his assistant,
Wacky (Harpo Marx), who happens to be Ravelli's brother. At the same
time, Mr. Grover is courting Martha Phelps (Margaret Dumont), Tommy's
aunt, with machinations of eventual ownership of the store.
In terms of meatiness, that's far more of a plot than I usually relay,
but all of that is presented in the first 10 - 15 minutes of the film.
The remainder involves playing out those threads. The problem is that
the above is way too complicated, especially for a Marx Brothers film.
The Marx Brothers style was that plots were really secondary to their
anarchic, madcap skits. In truth, the two were usually well integrated
in their films, with meatier plots than the conventional wisdom has it,
and the skits relatively seamlessly enmeshed in the plots.
Here, the plot is often difficult to follow, and when you do manage to
follow it, it just isn't that interesting. Despite this, there are
still a number of fabulous set pieces. The scene where we first meet
Groucho and Harpo in Groucho's private eye office is hilarious. The
bedding department scene is good. The climax, featuring an extended
chase through the department store, is a lot of fun, including its
cartoonish use of wire stunts and camera tricks.
But there just isn't enough of that stuff, and one of the Marx
Brothers' strongest points--Groucho's verbal bantering, is oddly flat
just as often as it isn't. Even the usual musical sequences are
problematic, unlike their sublime charm in Go West. Only Harpo's
musical sequence and a brief duet with Chico on the piano are
worthwhile. Groucho is given a schmaltzy "big musical production
number" that goes on too long, is supposed to be funny and isn't, and
ends up with Groucho doing little else but mugging and doing his
trademark walk while other characters we're not familiar with sing the
song.
Tony Martin has a song early on in the film that's okay, but doesn't
exactly fit the tone of the film, and later, he does another "big
musical production number", called "The Tenement Symphony", that is
bizarre, to say the least, but not particularly funny. Instead, it's a
strange mish-mash of styles that is strongly derivative (in a negative
way) of George Gershwin.
While Marx Brothers completest certainly can't avoid The Big Store,
it's difficult to imagine this being anywhere near the top of the list
for any Marx Brothers fan. It's also not a great way to introduce
anyone to their work (as they're likely to not be very interested in
seeing more), and there are far better films for casual viewers who are
not particularly interested in the Marx Brothers.
The few hilarious scenes could easily be excised and work just as well
(if not better) in isolation, as "random" skits. But the film is very
slightly recommendable for them.
6 out of 8 people found the following review useful:
"Flywheel's in Command.", 8 January 2006
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Author:
bkoganbing from Buffalo, New York
After Zeppo Marx refused to move on with his brothers to MGM from
Paramount, the Marxs usually secured the services of another player,
usually a singer to function in Zeppo's nondescript place. Usually that
person had a lot more personality than Zeppo did. It was Allan Jones in
two films, Kenny Baker in one and in The Big Store it was Tony Martin.
The still very much alive, but retired Tony Martin, had one of the
great voices of the last century. He never made the screen impact that
other singers did, though he was in some very good films. His main
media outlets were records, radio, and as one of the premier nightclub
attractions, especially when he appeared with his second wife Cyd
Charisse. Martin had two songs to sing in The Big Store, the much
maligned Tenement Symphony and a really nice ballad, If It's You.
Martin is the heir to one half of Phelps Department store. The other
half is owned by his aunt Margaret Dumont. The Hastings Brothers, who
own a chain of department stores, are looking to buy this one.
Manager Douglass Dumbrille has been doing a little embezzling on the
side and he's afraid that if Martin sells his half, he's taking a
stretch up the river. After Martin becomes the victim of an attempted
murder, Dumont hires who else, detective Wolf J. Flywheel who is of
course Groucho Marx.
By a happy coincidence, Groucho has Harpo as a sidekick and Harpo's
brother in the film Chico is a friend of Martin's. So now we have all
the Marx Brothers working at the store.
The Big Store is usually dismissed as one of the Marx Brothers lesser
films, but it's always been a favorite of mine. Another reviewer said
there were too many musical numbers. I don't think there were any more
or less than in other films of their's. The running time is a bit short
so it might seem like there's more.
The highlight for me is always the final chase seen through the store,
especially since Douglass Dumbrille joins in the fun. Dumbrille on
screen usually plays some serious villains, probably his best known
part is that of Mr. Cedar the lawyer who is milking the estate that
Gary Cooper is inheriting in Mr. Deeds Goes to Town.
Dumbrille is just as successful dealing with the Marx Brothers over
embezzlement as he is with Gary Cooper. But here this very serious and
obviously classically trained actor joins right in the slapstick fun.
Dumbrille looks like he's having a ball. Later on he would really cut
loose in a couple of Abbott and Costello films.
A question to all movie fans. Who do you think had the most inventive
screen character names, W.C. Fields or Groucho Marx?
4 out of 5 people found the following review useful:
the big store, 7 April 2007
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Author:
greenpiebohemia from United States
This is my favorite movie ever.
These are the highlights for me.
From Groucho's singing "Mr. Grover you are just a quack to me" to the
end of the "Sing while you sell" reprise. Virginia O'Brien had me
laughing on the floor the first time I heard "Rock-a-bye Baby". I just
love the way Groucho takes the big production number, a standard
vehicle of the time, and makes it signature Groucho. You got to smile.
I think this movie has some of the best Groucho/Margaret Dumont banter.
Harpo's harp solo is miles ahead of any of his others. It's just plain
fun,
Although the Tenement Symphony clearly is lacking musically, you have
to love the overriding pun. The Tenement Symphony in four flats.
5 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
Not the best, 13 January 2006
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drexelgal from United States
By 1941, Groucho didn't want to make any more movies. The Brothers
continued to do so just to keep oldest Brother Chico afloat, due to his
gambling habits.
Someone commented earlier about Virginia O'Brien, the deadpan singer in
the "rockabye" sequence. The deadpan delivery was her "shtick", and
predated a similar approach taken by Keely Smith some years later.
Legend has it that the first time a spotlight fell on Ms. O'Brien for
an on-stage solo, she froze, an delivered her song with a pre-Botox
facial paralysis. The audience thought it was part of the act and
roared approvingly with laughter. From then on, Ms. O'Brien sang no
other way. (She also sings a few bars of the Jerome Kern song, "A Fine
Romance" in the semi-bio, "'Til The Clouds Roll By".) The big store is
best remembered (and viewed) for the rousing "Sing While You Sell"
piece about 38 minutes into the movie.
5 out of 8 people found the following review useful:
middling Marx is still pretty good, 10 June 2004
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Author:
dr_foreman from Brooklyn, NY
Halfway through "The Big Store," my Dad turned to me and remarked,
"This is an uneven movie - some parts are great, some are terrible,
some are boring and some are a scandal." I couldn't put it better
myself (and so I didn't try!).
The scandalous parts are, of course, the scenes involving broad
stereotypes.
The Marx Brothers always walk a pretty fine line on the right side of
good taste, as much of their humor involves insulting women and
authority figures. But that's their schtick, and it's usually pretty
harmless (not to mention hilarious). It's only when they go after
ethnic groups that they lose me. And yet, I always laugh during the
"bed scene" in this movie, so maybe they don't really lose me; I hate
to say it, but stereotyping IS often funny. But it's an uncomfortable
kind of funny.
It's a shame because the Brothers clearly aren't playing to their
strengths in this movie. The final chase scene is good fun, but not
really their "thing" (somehow, the slapstick seemed better thought out
in "A Night at the Opera"). Still, they shine in several scenes, most
notably when Groucho first meets Grover and proceeds to insult him
while simultaneously wooing Margaret Dumont with Romantic poetry. I
also like Harpo's fantasy segment, one of the more imaginative musical
numbers from the latter-day movies. I don't even mind the obligatory
Handsome Young Man character as he's got a good rapport with Groucho,
but his bizarro Tenement Symphony (which is mercifully excised from
most TV versions) really needs to go.
I sound like I hate this movie, but I really don't. Though it's clearly
a big step down from the best of Marx, The Big Store is still
intermittently hilarious, and even at its worst, it's diverting. Lesser
comedians would kill to be as good as the Marx Brothers on a mediocre
day.
7 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Fast-forward when The Marx Brothers are not on the screen, 10 September 1999
Author:
MrVB from New York
Same old note: The Marx Brothers INGENIOUSLY twist any phrase or object into
HILARITY.
Unfortunately, this film has a plot.
The usual hilarity when The Marx Brothers are left to their own devices, but
too much screen time not dedicated to The Marx Brothers.
NOTE: If you have a heart-beat and love to laugh yourself silly, you MUST
see Horse Feathers, Duck Soup, The Coconuts and Monkey
Business.
2 out of 3 people found the following review useful:
Mixed bag, 28 November 2009
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Author:
gridoon2012
When people are asked which is their least favorite Marx Brothers movie, "The Big Store" is one of the most frequent choices. And it's not hard to understand why: this must be the Marx movie with the least comedy content in it - if not in quality, then certainly in quantity. Apart from the hilarious scene near the start where Margaret Dumont tries to explain the case "in detail" to supposedly busy detective Groucho while Harpo is typing loudly and a toaster goes out of control (a sequence that can make you laugh no matter how many times you see it), it's hard to name another classic piece of comedy here. The scene with the 14-member Italian family and the climactic chase inside the store are more chaotic and frenetic than funny (and there's also way too much fast motion used). On the bright side, this film has a better supporting cast than "Go West", "Sing While You Sell" is a grand and catchy number, Harpo and Chico have a delightful piano duet and Harpo's harp-playing scene is pure magic. While in many Marx Brothers movies I find the piano and harp numbers a dull interruption of the comedy, in "The Big Store" they are a welcome relief from the absence of comedy! **1/2 out of 4.
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