Children of Pleasure (1930) User Reviews

"It's 1930. Why be old-fashioned?"

[atlasmb · 6/10 · 29 July 2014]

Released in 1930--soon after the advent of talkies--"Children of Pleasure" must have been one of the earliest musicals. But it is not a musical as we know them now, where characters break out in song to express their emotions. Reveling in the possibilities of sound, the talkies were often stories about stage productions or nightclub venues, allowing production numbers, which pretty much stop the storyline. This film has those staged numbers, but since the main character, Danny Regan (Lawrence Gray) is a songwriter, and a guy who communicates better with his girlfriend when he sings to her, various songs become expressions of his love.

The object of his affection is Patricia Thayer (Judith Wood), a socialite backed by family money. She uses and throws away boyfriends like chewing gum. When Emma (Wynne Gibson), Danny's friend and coworker sees him falling for Pat, she is concerned for him, but wants him to be happy.

Pat eventually agrees to marry Danny. On the night of the wedding rehearsal, Danny overhears something that makes him second guess his decision to marry Pat.

The sound quality of the film is sometimes fuzzy, sometimes excellent--what you might expect of a film from 1930. The storyline is fairly good until the ending, when instead of showing us what transpires, the film has a character tell us what happened. This also results in a jarring close to the film.

The musical (and dance) numbers are typical for the era. Lots of "gee whiz" lyrics and shuffling. But the songs are not bad. One song Danny sings, titled "The Whole Darn Thing's For You" is charming.

The entire cast feels like it was picked right out of vaudeville and the borscht circuit. So some of the humor is clever, some feels amateurish by today's standards. But I liked most of the characters. I particularly liked the acting/singing/comedy of Wynne Gibson.

Composer settles score

[lugonian · 6/10 · 3 August 2014]

CHILDREN OF PLEASURE (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 1930), directed by Harry Beaumont, is only a title that has no bearing on the story. The film has no children yet the title makes one believe it to be one about a childless couple who take in foster kids to bring joy and happiness in their lives. Nothing like that here, not even a song bearing that title to end the story. The film overall, taken from a play "The Song Writer" by Crane Wilbur, (also credited for dialogue), as scripted by Richard Schayer, is a musical about a fictitional songwriter. Following the formula pattern of screen musicals that have become the rage during the motion picture transition from silent to talkies, Beaumont, the director responsible for MGM's first musical and Academy Award winner, "The Broadway Melody" (1929) gives it another try placing the dark-haired, smiley-faced Lawrence Gray, Helen Johnson and Wynne Gibson in the leads rather than reuniting its "Broadway Melody" trio of Charles King, Anita Page and Bessie Love. While "The Broadway Melody" proved beneficial for the studio, with countless imitations that followed during the 1929-30 season, CHILDREN OF PLEASURE is simply one of minor importance.

As with "Broadway Melody," the plot is set mostly in the Broadway district of Manhattan where Danny Regan (Lawrence Gray), a young composer from the Bronx, coming to see and hear the songs he's written for stage performances at a local theater starring his friends, Fanny Kaye (May Boley), the featured singer (with four ex-husbands), and her partner, Andy Little, nee Levine (Benny Rubin) at the piano. During the show, Danny, who's in a relationship with Emma Gray (Wynne Gibson), secretary to song publisher Bernie (Lee Kohlmar), becomes infatuated with a beautiful blonde patron (Helen Johnson) seated next to him. He continues to give her the eye after she leaves. Danny notices the same blonde once again while attending another show featuring his melodies, this time meeting and making the acquaintance with heiress Patricia Thayer. Even though Patricia has been engaged "a dozen times" to Robert Peck (Kenneth Thomson), and not really in Danny's social class, she agrees to marry him as an experiment rather than for love, with intentions of divorce once she becomes bored with him. After Danny overhears her intentions conversed with Peck the day of their wedding, he tells her off and leaves, to become a hopeless drunk. As Emma tries to help Danny through his troubles, and Patricia wanting to explain what he's overheard, it's Danny who really settles the score.

On the musical program, songs include: "A Couple of Birds With the Same Thing in Mind" by Howard Johnson, George Ward and Reggie Montgomery (sung by May Boley, tap dance by male ensemble in black-face); "Raisin' the Dust" (sung by Lawrence Gray); Raisin' the Dust" (reprise, production number performed by May Boley and ensemble in devil costumes, one being future film actress Ann Dvorak); "Girl Trouble" by Andy Rice and Fred Fisher (sung by Gray, comic act performance by Benny Rubin and Wynne Gibson); " As I See You" "Leave It That Way" and "A While Darn Thing For You" (all sung by Gray, the latter accompanied by The Rounders). Of the songs, the last two are easily the best, while the initial two are given okay production number treatment choreographed by Sammy Lee.

While the pattern of entertainer/composer forsaking good girl for the love of the wrong one can easily be traced to recent musicals, notable exceptions being THE SINGING FOOL (1928) with Al Jolson; THE DANCE OF LIFE (1929) with Hal Skelly; and PUTTIN' ON THE RITZ (1930) with Harry Richman, CHILDREN OF PLEASURE, which should have been titled "Girl Trouble," very much belongs to the now forgotten Lawrence Gray. Aside from being in films since the silent era, and quite an acceptable singer, his career would fade to obscurity by the mid 1930s, never making the grade in popular singer category as popular singer as Al Jolson, Bing Crosby or Frank Sinatra. Wynne Gibson, shortly before developing her craft as a "tough fame" over at Paramount and RKO Radio, is agreeable in the good girl role, while Helen Johnson (who later changed her name to Judith Wood), could physically be the equivalent to Josephine Dunn's performance in Jolson's THE SINGING FOOL, though Lawrence Gray doesn't end up singing a sad song like "Sonny Boy" to drown out his sorrows.

As much as CHILDREN OF PLEASURE lacks top names of real interest, then and now, film buffs should take great interest in spotting Jack Benny, future radio and TV comedian, and Cliff Edwards, in separate cameo roles playing themselves. Benny Rubin and May Boley as the secondary couple, offer comedy support through verbal exchanges reflecting more like vaudeville routines than natural flare of speaking, while Lee Kohlmar's Jewish dialect with Woody Woodpecker sounding laugh for stereotypical humor is definitely a reflection of the times way back when.

Though far from being a classic in any sense, CHILDREN OF PLEASURE should score well for those interested in the history and development of early screen musicals such as this. Seldom revived, even on Turner Classic Movies cable channel, don't expect finding any children in this one, only Lawrence Gray the composer who writes the songs. (**)

Where did they get this title?...

[AlsExGal · 6/10 · 7 May 2021]

Because there is nothing of tots or titillation in this film. I will give it this. For an early talkie, it managed to transition between scenes without one title card. This is probably of interest only for film historians, and particularly those interested in the early sound era. And that is because it demonstrates just about everything wrong with the early talkie musical craze that so quickly turned movie goers off the genre for two years.

The cast is obscure unless you are really into that era of film history. Probably the cast member with the biggest future was Wynne Gibson, the best of the tough blondes of Depression era film. Almost emblematically, she is a brunette here. And yet she is the performer you will remember, and fondly.

This is often and oddly compared to "Lord Byron of Broadway", and I can't imagine why other than both films are MGM movies about songwriters. Except Lord Byron's songwriter is a heel and this songwriter, Danny Regan (Lawrence. Gray) is just romantically rash. In fact the entire film is about his confusion over picking the right woman. Because Regan is a songwriter and publisher at least the plot escapes being a complete backstager by being able to move between productions and not tethered to just one. But the featured musical numbers are very odd - the first number is an operatic song with minstrel accompaniment (???) and the second number has everybody dressed in felt with a single metallic barb coming out of the top of their costumes. And you haven't lived until you've seen Wynne Gibson and Benny Rubin try to sing a duet. Unfortunately the songs are just not memorable.

To pad the plot, for some reason Benny Rubin is inserted as the piano playing employee of an overweight middle aged diva whom he obviously finds repulsive and yet she chases the poor man tenaciously. Maybe they were going for a Margaret Dumont/Groucho Marx dynamic and just got way off target?

You can't say MGM didn't give Lawrence Gray plenty of opportunities. He played the lead in five of these early sound films before they gave him the boot, because although he had a great voice he just had no screen presence.

Jack Benny shows up in a short scene at the very beginning, I think mainly to explain to the audience just who Gray's character is. Benny wasn't a radio star yet, and I think this was the period of time where Benny was under contract to MGM, Irving Thalberg liked him but couldn't figure out what to do with him next, and Benny was getting bored.

Some say that this film was based on the marriage of Irving Berlin to heiress Ellin Mackay. If so, Berlin should have sued.

Lawrence Gray Star

[drednm · 10 November 2010]

Snappy musical of songwriter (Lawrence Gray) who falls for a society girl (Helen Johnson) much to the chagrin of his faithful secretary (Wynne Gibson). Gray sings a few songs and there are some productions numbers from Broadway shows that feature May Boley, Benny Rubin, and Gibson.

Supposedly loosely based on the life of Irving Berlin, this is an interesting early musical, one of many that Gray starred in. The songs are pretty much integrated into the plot and chart the course of love as Gray writes songs for Johnson (also known as Judith Wood) and then creates dark lyrics when he learns she's only out for a lark.

I suspect some material has been cut and long lost since the film clocks in at a little over an hour.

Gray is a pleasant leading man, Gibson a surprise in her singing number, Boley a powerhouse (despite the hideous costumes) as the "red hot mama," and Rubin always good for a laugh. Cameos by Jack Benny and Cliff Edwards don't add much. Co-stars include Kenneth Thomson, Ann Dvorak (chorus girl), Mary Carlisle, Lee Kohlmar, and Doris McMahon, the girl from Buster Keaton's FREE AND EASY who wants to sing a funny song.

A bit slow...but for a 1930 film it's not bad.

[planktonrules · 5/10 · 1 April 2021]

Early sound films were often problematic because Hollywood was still trying to perfect the sound process. A particular problem was getting the volume correct. And, to do so, in many early movies actors were huddled near hidden microphones and this allowed them to move about very little and the films seemed pretty stilted. This is definitely the case for "Children of Pleasure"...a stilted film that isn't bad for 1930 but which seems dated today.

The story is a musical...and the sound issues seriously impact this. In particular, many of the songs are MUCH quieter than the dialog portions...and the singing is rather tinny to say the least. As for the story, it's only okay as it involves a guy who is in love with the wrong girl and the audience can clearly see that by the end he'll end up with his platonic female friend. No suspense here.

So is the film still worth seeing? Well, it does feature a couple interesting cameos, with Jack Benny and Cliff Edwards playing themselves. It also features one of Benny Rubin's best appearances as the funny and sexually harassed piano player. But the film is slow, predictable, has poor sound and, on top of it all, features a jaw-dropping minstrel act!

Entertaining Curio

[gatsby91606 · 7/10 · 1 August 2014]

"Children of Pleasure" is a 1930 curio turning up on TCM. The film is a very minor early MGM musical you can label low budget B picture. However, any MGM B looks first class compared to Poverty Row cheapies. "Children of Pleasure" arrived during the first wave of sound musicals and isn't as stodgy and crude as other musicals of the time period. In fact, there's a slight hint of how musicals would evolve in a few years hence under Busby Berkeley.

The film is pre-code but the only risqué thing is the title. Story is simple and basic. Songs are forgettable. The actors are long forgotten names never achieving any kind of notable stardom. Songwriters and choreographer don't ring a bell. Director Harry Beaumont was a prominent name in silents and directed MGM's first sound musical "The Broadway Melody" (1929) winning a Best Picture Oscar.

Danny (Lawrence Gray) is a hot shot songwriter. Partner Emma (Wynne Gibson) loves Danny who only has eyes for spoiled heiress Pat (Helen Johnson). Will Danny end up with Pat or Emma? That's a pretty thin storyline serving as framework for several production numbers, Gray at the piano singing songs and Jewish schtick by comedian Benny Rubin.

There are delights to be found in "Children of Pleasure." Yes, that's a not yet really famous Jack Benny in a cameo. Also Cliff "Ukulele Ike" Edwards. The music has the real deal syncopation bounce never successfully imitated in later films set in this era. Some nice chorus girl line tapping. The politically correct police will demand the film be destroyed for its black face line of tappers.

The pleasure in viewing even a film this obscure lies in details. The sleek women with marcelled hair wearing great fashion. Gibson wears a dress that flows with her movement during her number. Set decoration is littered with art deco design showing on chairs and piano and distinct art deco objects.

Irving Berlin might have sued

[bkoganbing · 4/10 · 6 March 2018]

I guess making sure that lead Lawrence Gray had his origins in the Bronx instead of Manhattan's Lower East Side was MGM's way of making sure Irving Berlin did not sue them. He was a most litigious man you know.

Gray is a Broadway composer of note who aspires to marry into high soceity. The object of his affection is Judith Wood, but he can't see for beans his assistant Wynne Gibson for once playing a good girl in a movie. I will say the usual ending is not what you will see.

Gray was a singer who had a pleasant voice you will discover, but had no real screen presence. He appeared in a few early musicals, but his career ran out of gas. Wood has some real bite in her performance as the spoiled self indulgent society woman.

Some nice production numbers of some forgettable songs are in Children Of Pleasure. A pre-Code production of limited appeal.

Primitive Tuneful Delight For The Archivist Only

[museumofdave · 7/10 · 2 August 2014]

If you are possibly going to spend 75 minutes or so out of your life watching an early musical from MGM, there's a strong chance you already know what you're in for--this short quickie, compared to a creation from Busby Berkeley at Warner's a few years later, is primitive indeed, but captures a time and place in Hollywood like few other films are able to do.

The plot is simple--winsome secretary loves a songwriter who falls for a society dame. The songwriter is zippy Lawrence Gray who smiles through his tears, and composes a song when he wants to express himself in love or out of it. One of his interpreters (and comic relief) is a Sophie Tucker type, a sort of Red Hot Mama attached to her ethnic pianist (at least that's how's he's played). We get some peeks at various musical numbers, some out-of-step minstrels in a theatre and a nutty song and dance in a nightclub--and "you ain't seen nothing" until you've seen the production number for "Dust," one of the hero's hits--with several helpings of actual dust--and later, a catchy little number "The Whole Darned Things For You."

The pleasures in this film are to be found in the sense of history it represents, awkward dealings with the sound, none of it prerecorded--even an outdoor encounter with comedian Jack Benny is fascinating, and one wonders if the subway entrance was a location shot or on the MGM lot. "Jiminy Cricket" Cliff Edwards also makes a jokey cameo, and the film zips along at a good pace--but ending as if the producer decided the company had run out of resources and just called "cut" and "print." Children of Pleasure is an archivist's delight!

Lower the Cheesecloth

[dogwater-1 · 3/10 · 30 July 2014]

Lawrence Gray plays Danny Regan, composer of popular love songs. The shy sort who can only express himself through syrup and corn in his music. He falls hard for a beautiful society blonde who has been through most of the eligible men on Broadway, but Danny offers the convenience of "all I have to do is push a button and I get a love song"., which is enough to impress her family and friends. Wynne Gibson plays the loyal gal Friday who loves him and May Boley is Fanny Kaye, Broadway star. Why she is a star is not amply shown by the two numbers she's in or, really any of the scenes. Benny Rubin is her piano player and perhaps boyfriend who makes cruel jokes about her which are supposed to be funny, but aren't. Most of the musical numbers look under-rehearsed, particularly a black face routine early on with Boley. Judith Wood or Helen Johnson, as she is billed here is the Park Ave. mankiller who causes all the trouble and gives a very interestingly terrible performance. Most of the cast went on with their lives, but not with their careers, except Rubin, of course. Still, even though this film is bad, bad, bad. Its fun, fun, fun.

Diagetic

[boblipton · 7/10 · 29 July 2014]

This is a diagetic musical. "Diagetic" refers to sounds or music that has a source on the screen; when Gene Kelly starts dancing in his music and the music comes out of nowhere, that is not diagetic. In this one, about songwriter Lawrence Gray, who loves Judith Woods and is loved by Wynne Gibson, Gray sits at a piano or we see a stage in a theater. Everything is "realer". Is it better? Well, my taste runs towards the MGM musicals of the Freed era, which were not like this.

Still, this is a fine early musical, eked out with the production values that MGM put into its musicals in those days, with great if stagy choreography by Sammy Lee and big production numbers, all under the direction of the underrated Harry Beaumont. He could get great performances out of mediocre actors and Wynne Gibson is a ball of fire in this one: a revelation that makes you realize that she was reined in and misused at Warner Brother.

The technical people haven't solved all the technical problems of dealing with sound. The staged musical numbers sound thin in the higher register and the camera is almost entire immobile. Still, the editing under Blanche Sewell deals nicely with the issues; the songs offered are pretty good; and the parade of cameos is interesting.

Mediocre sound and music

[MikeMagi · 2/10 · 19 August 2014]

If you want to excuse the mediocrity of "Children of Pleasure," you can point out that it was made in 1930 when movies were just learning to talk. On the other hand, over at Warner Bros., they were revving up the style and sparkle of "42nd Street" and the first "Gold Diggers" (both released in 1933.)Aside from its clumsy title, "Children of Pleasure" has unimaginative production numbers (Busby Berkeley would cringe,) a leading man, Lawrence Gray, with no charisma, embarrassing ethnic humor and a creaky plot about a songwriter who falls for a phony society dame but doesn't realize that even at their wedding rehearsal, she's thinking of divorce. Meanwhile, the secretary who truly loves him is prepared to hurl him at his heartless sweetheart. Talk about noble sacrifice! As a museum piece, it's worth watching. As entertainment, it's pretty grim.

Wynne Gibson is Adorable!!

[kidboots · 8/10 · 19 March 2020]

Lawrence Grey had quickly been promoted from unit production manager to leading man at Paramount and he went through the 1920s as a solid support to some of the screen's most popular actresses. When MGM saw the good notices he garnered for his work with Marion Davies, Bernice Claire and the Duncan Sisters, they rewarded him with the lead in "Children of Pleasure" a modest programmer that took advantage of the musical mad times and Grey's pleasing but modest vocal talents. Based on a play "The Song Writer" by Crane Wilbur, an early matinee idol who had since turned his hands to other behind the scenes talents, it was about Danny, a young singer song writer and his two very different women. Pat (Helen Johnson) is an heiress who determines that marriage with Danny is not going to end her affair with actor Rod Peck (Kenneth Thomson boo hiss). Emma Gray (Wynne Gibson) was Danny's former vaudeville partner and is now a co-worker in a Tin Pan Alley publishing house and is also true blue in her devotion. I know within a couple of years Gibson's movie personality would not be described as adorable but she definitely was in this movie!!!

Danny is on cloud nine and dreams of a quiet wedding but Pat has big wedding plans - just before they walk down the aisle Danny overhears Pat flippantly proposing that she still keep up her relations with Rod. To his credit Rod is horrified but Danny goes to pieces and on a bender. It is Emma who finds him and tries to sober him up but while still under the influence he asks Emma to marry him. Realising he is still on the rebound she devises an ingenious plan!!

If anyone stood out in this pretty so-so movie it was Wynne Gibson - could this be the actress who the next year gave Sylvia Sidney such a hard time in "Ladies of the Big House"? Here she was sparkling and snappy and she really put over her song - there was a voice there!! Helen Johnson was pretty enough as Pat - she later changed her name to Judith Woods and wowed them on Broadway in "Dinner at Eight". Benny Rubin and May Boley provided the comic relief and with Kenneth Thomson playing the cad with a heart there was not much for poor Lawrence Grey to do - the movie proved he was better at supporting dazzling leading ladies than having to carry a whole movie.

The songs seemed to pick up in catchiness as the movie went on - I know "Leave it That Way" seemed promoted as the song hit but "The Whole Darned Thing's For You" was the movie toe-tapper in my opinion. It was sung at the bridal party and a popular band The Biltmore Trio joined in. Big musical number was the ambitious "Dust" which in any other movie of the time would have been the finale but here was presented 15 minutes in. A combination of "Dancing the Devil Away" and "I Want to Be Bad" - meaning lots of odd costumes, billowing smoke and an original Technicolor sequence although now only remaining in black and white. It had dancers on tiers with a few of the better ones out front, none better than Ann Dvorak who was giving it all she had. Unfortunately for most of her dance, the photography was bad and you couldn't see her feet!! If the sets looked similar to the "Singin' in the Rain" sequence from "Hollywood Revue of 1929" it's because the see through drapes were first used in that earlier movie.

Very Recommended.

Great for Film Historians!

[kbratk · 6/10 · 3 August 2014]

Previous reviewers have hit the high spots in summarizing this 1930s musical from MGM. Lots of criticism has been thrown at the perceived inadequacies of the music and dance aspects of the movie. Yes, when looking at it through today's eyes, it looks dated, simplistic, and fairly unpolished. But the higher standards of the coming years hadn't arrived yet, so let's give this a break! Indeed the dance numbers could have been better rehearsed. If one looks closely, the footwork in the production numbers, while lacking Astaire/Rogers-like precision, is still pretty close. Where the real problems come are in the areas of arm, hand, head, and other body motions. It looks like those aspects of performance were never discussed with the cast, so the resulting dances look sloppy. But this was a step in the process of giving us the higher-level musical that some of us love so very much! Watch this film when you get the chance and enjoy this chapter in the development of an All-American art form!

One Cringe Inducing Scene After Another

[LeonLouisRicci · 1/10 · 1 August 2014]

Absolutely Abysmal Early Talkie Musical that is One of those that is Totally Forgotten and for Good Reason. It is an Example of Hollywood Unmasked for what it can be at its Worse. Even in 1930 this must have been Awful. Considering Neither the Director nor the Stars did Anything Worth a Note After this Bomb.

There is a Fat Leading Lady Singing and Dancing as a Wondrous Stage Star and is the Blunt of Ugly and Weight Related Humor. There are Jewish Comedians and Songwriters that are Stereotypical Embarrassing.

One Staged Musical Extravaganza with Dozens of Shapely Girls in Rotation and Counter Rotation that Anticipates Busby Berkley is a Highlight, but Mostly the Movie is a Tough Watch because it is So Dated that it Cannot even be Seen as High Camp. It's just One Cringe Inducing Scene After Another.

This One has been Relegated to the Dust Bin and Once in a While TCM Brushes it Off for a Screening, but that Only Reinforces its Place in what can Only be Described as a Pathetic Picture.

what's a guy to do? can't choose...

[ksf-2 · 6/10 · 17 June 2021]

Early talkie. Danny and Emma ( (Lawrence Gray and Wynne Gibson) are in show biz, and trying to make a go of it. Blackface minstrel show. Producing various shows. Lots of long lines of dancers, uniform formations and outfits. He seems to be torn between to birds... emma and pat. He teeters back and forth between them. What's a guy to do? Such problems. Lots of snap crackle pop on the sound track, but the picture quality is pretty good! Original play from Crane Wilbur; was caught up in the production of Tomorrow's Children, a discussion of sterilization and birth conrol, which was a huge no-no at the time. Directed by Harry Beaumont, who had JUST been nominated for Broadway Melody. It's okay.