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Heydrich: Emigration. The policy that will take the place of emigration, and we have collected enough practical experience to do it well, is evacuation.
Hofmann: Which differs from emigration in what way? Evacuation to where?
Heydrich: Let us postpone that question for a while.
Klopfer: To hell, one hopes.
Lange: Many already have.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: Do they even have a hell?
Heydrich: They do now. We provide it.
General Reinhard Heydrich: From Lapland to Libya, from Vladivostok to Belfast, no Jews. Not one.
Kritzinger: No, that is not, that is contrary to what the Chancellory has been told! I have been told, I have... Purge the Jews, yes. But,to annihilate them... That we have undertaken to systematically annihilate all the Jews of Europe? No, that respnsibility has personally been denied, to me, by the Fuhrer!
Heydrich: And it will continue to be.
Kritzinger: Yes, I understand. Yes. He will continue to deny it.
Heydrich: My apologies. Do you accept my apologies?
Kritzinger: Of course.
Heydrich: We will not sterilize every Jew and wait for them to die. We will not sterilize every Jew and then exterminate the race. That's farcical. Dead men don't hump, dead women don't get pregnant. Death is the most reliable form of sterilization, put it that way.
Heydrich: Look at the world and tell me the pleasures of sanity.
[
opening the conference]
Heydrich: So to begin. We have a storage problem in Germany, with these Jews.
Lange: I have the real feeling I "evacuated" 30,000 Jews already, by shooting them, at Riga. Is what I did "evacuation"? When they fell, were they "evacuated"? There are another 20,000, at least, waiting for similar "evacuation". - I just think it is helpful to know what words mean... with all respect.
[
Kritzinger bangs the table in applause]
Adolf Eichmann: If I might, I think it's unnecessary to burden the record...
Heydrich: Yes! In my personal opinion, they are evacuated.
Kritzinger: Explain!
Heydrich: I have just done so.
Kritzinger: That is not - no, that is contrary to what the Chancellery has been told. I have directly been assured - I have - that - purge the Jews, yes, but to annihilate them - that we have undertaken to systematically annihilate all the Jews of Europe - that possibility has personally been denied, to me, by the Führer!
Heydrich: And it will continue to be.
Adolf Eichmann: Now, last summer Reichsführer Himmler asked me to visit a camp up in Upper Silesia, called Auschwitz, which is very well isolated, and close to significant rail access. And we are turning that camp into a major center, solid structures (and here's where your Jewish labor comes into play, Herr Neumann, the Jews haul the bricks and they build the buildings themselves). And when the structures are complete, we expect to be able to process 2500... an hour. Not a day, an hour.
Heydrich: And those numbers look a lot better.
Luther: 2500 an hour?
Hofmann: 2500?
Adolf Eichmann: At 24 hours a day, that is 60,000.
Kritzinger: 60,000 each day...
Adolf Eichmann: That's 21,900,000 Jews a year, if ever there were that many.
Heydrich: And we are also constructing the means of disposal, which will obviously depend upon the process of combustion.
Adolf Eichmann: Yes, it'll be industrial in nature: large commercial gas-fed ovens, no residue to speak of.
Müller: 60,000 Jews every day go up in smoke.
Heydrich: We can achieve that. Imagine.
Heydrich: [
the meeting is near a close, and Heydrich is listening to everyone's decision] Do we have any disputes left to face here either with my authority or with that we have agreed? General?
Müller: Let us astonish Charles Darwin.
Klopfer: [
raises glass] I second the motion. It is our most important war.
Heydrich: Sir?
Kritzinger: We are discussing the inevitable and bringing it about in the most practical way under one command. I have no dispute with that, I understand the realities. And indeed, count on my support.
Hofmann: With the understanding that consideration will be given to my proposal, yes. Proceed.
Dr. Georg Leibbrandt: I defer to the SS.
Dr. Alfred Meyer: If you are to do it, then force-feed it. Speed it along. Our situation, such as in Warsaw, is difficult, edging towards disastrous. Thank you.
Dr. Wilhelm Stuckart: ...Oh, yes. What can I say? My enthusiasm is boundless.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: Obviously.
Heydrich: Sorry?
Undersecretary Martin Luther: I trust my enthusiasm is clear, is apparent. Yes!
Heydrich: Neumann?
Erich Neumann: I would like to know that adequate labor will still be available...
Heydrich: On a case-by-case basis. Major Lange?
Lange: Yes.
Dr. Joseph Bühler: I would like to urge that speed that Dr. Meyer asked of you. The Poles are not as disciplined a population as we Germans. And I will report our will to the Governor General.
Heydrich: He will understand that I'm relieving him of a burden, Colonel?
SS.Col. Eberhard 'Karl' Schöngarth: I thoroughly approve and I'm anxious to start. I look forward to working with your office, and yours, Colonel.
Dr. Roland Freisler: The sooner, the better.
Müller: Perhaps the judge has a special love for them?
Klopfer: [
mutters appreciatively] Yes, yes a special love for them... very good...
Dr. Wilhelm Stuckart: For whom? For Jews! Wonderful, you don't have my credentials. Forgive me, from your uniform I can infer you're shallow, ignorant and naive about the Jews. Your line and what the party rants on about how inferior they are, some-some-some sub-species, and I keep saying how wrong that is! They are sublimely clever. And they're intelligent as well. My indictment to that race is stronger and heavier because they are real not uneducated ideology. They are arrogant, they are self-obsessed, and calculating and they reject the Christ and I will not have them pollute German blood!
General Reinhard Heydrich: [
tries to calm Stuckart down] Please, doctor...
Dr. Wilhelm Stuckart: He doesn't understand! And neither do his people. Deal with the reality of the Jew and the world will applaud us. Treat them as imaginary phantoms, evil in human fantasies, and the world would have justified contempt for us! To kill them casually without regard for the law martyrs them, which will be their victory! Sterilization recognizes them as a part of our species but prevents them from being a part of our race. They will disappear soon enough. And we will have acted in defense of our race and by the law! This fellow here mentioned the laws for the protection of German blood, *I wrote that law*! When you have my credentials then we'll talk about who loves the Jews or who hates them. Pigs don't know how to hate. I know too, when it comes to the half-mixed, that to kill them abandons the half of their blood which is German.
Klopfer: I'll remember you.
Dr. Wilhelm Stuckart: You should. I'm very well known.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: I'm sorry, why can't you shoot them?
Dr. Joseph Bühler: Didn't you just hear him? It is the worst thing for our soldiers to be doing. They are women, they are children. And soldiers have a sense of honor, sir.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: There's plenty of honor in following orders.
Lange: Sir, would you care to join my group?
Undersecretary Martin Luther: Enthusiastically!
Heydrich: No.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: I will.
Heydrich: No, you will not. 11 million, even half that number, executed in small batches, would be asinine to undertake for the reasons Dr. Meyer mentioned. Inefficient use of time, manpower, bullets. No. As Major Lange will learn, gas if much more efficient, and less public.
Heydrich: I will not miss them.
General Reinhard Heydrich: I *love* this house. Seeing it from the air you can appreciate the architect, and when the war is over it will be my home.
General Reinhard Heydrich: At the risk of sounding like the first day of summer camp, let us go around the table and introduce ourselves for the sake of those who do not know others.
General Reinhard Heydrich: If we keep doing this all day we will never finish, with no disrespect to our Führer it is suspended until the close of business.
General Reinhard Heydrich: [
discussing Jewish populations by country] Estonia, not a one.
Dr. Georg Leibbrandt: The very best thing I've ever heard about Estonia.
Undersecretary Martin Luther: I think I heard some of what I wrote in what you said.
General Reinhard Heydrich: I think not.
General Reinhard Heydrich: [
to Stuckart] I would not want our SS friends to take too close an interest in you.
General Reinhard Heydrich: [
to Kritzinger] You would be a very hard man to bring down.
General Reinhard Heydrich: Ah, Schubert. The adagio will tear your heart out.
Heydrich: [
to Kritzinger] Well then, this is the moment to be practical, until such time as Germany can afford your philosophy, which is what? Hunt them, impoverish them, exploit them, imprison them, just do not kill them. And you are thought the noblest of men? I find that, uh, truly remarkable.
Heydrich: [
to Lange] Politics is a nasty game. I think soldiering requires the discipline to do the unthinkable and politics requires the skill to get someone else to do the unthinkable for you.
Adolf Eichmann: There were women... children...
Reinhard Heydrich: Women and children are Jews too.
Reinhard Heydrich: It's dishonorable to be weaklings, which we in the SS are not.
Reinhard Heydrich: Tell me, Hoffmann, have you been doing anything reprehensible lately?
Helmutt Hoffmann: Not that I'm aware of.
Reinhard Heydrich: Well, if you had, you certainly would be aware of it, wouldn't you?