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: [the map is packed on top of the car on the way into New York
] So you were planning on studying it later, academically or something?
: And they had no hole in the center of the record. Mark Shubb
: It would teeter crazily on the little spindle. Jerry Palter
: No, you had to provide it yourself. They were still good records. Good product. Mark Shubb
: If you punched a hole in them, you'd have a good time.
: We don't want people to reach for their remotes here. Mark Shubb
: It's public television. Alan Barrows
: They don't have remotes.
: We go out there, we do the song we're known for, we get it out of the way and then, 'hey, here's the icing on the cake.' Alan Barrows
: What's the icing? Jerry Palter
: Well the icing is the rest of the act. Mark Shubb
: That's the cake. Jerry Palter
: No, that's the dressing.
: Things have been going really well. We got some gigs here, working at the casinos. It has been a time of changes, but change is good. Change is life.
[camera pulls out to reveal Mark Shubb dressed as a woman
] Mark Shubb
: It was like a great big door opening for me... Town Hall... after that concert, I realized I wanted to spend as much of the rest of my life as possible playing folk music with these gentlemen... Jerry Palter
: Right back atcha. Mark Shubb
: ...and I wanted to spend all of it as a woman. I came to a realization that I was - and am - a blonde, female folk singer trapped in the body of a bald, male folk singer and I had to LET ME OUT or I WOULD DIE. Jerry Palter
: When you put it that way, it's almost poetry. Alan Barrows
: [listening backstage to Mitch & Mickey singing "Kiss at the end of the rainbow"
] I know this song. This is that really pretty one. With the kiss. Turn that up a bit. Remember, where they used to... Mark Shubb
: The kiss. Jerry Palter
: Wonder how they're gonna handle that. Mark Shubb
: 5 dollars says they do it. Jerry Palter
: You're on.
: I always thought it was "hey nonny no, nanny ninny no" and I'm getting kind of confused with all the nannies and the ninnies. Jerry Palter
: There's no nanny, just take that out of the equation. It's "hey nonny no, nonny ninny o". Mark Shubb
: Iron clad rule, Alan. Nonny before ninny. Alan Barrows
: Well, I don't sing this one anyway. Jerry Palter
: No, so it's kind of academic.
: [the New Main Street Singers perform 'Wandering' in the background
] You swear to God you didn't talk to Menschell about the set? Alan Barrows
: Why would I talk to him about it? Jerry Palter
: You didn't tell him what we were opening with, right? Alan Barrows
: I never talked to him about it at all. Jerry Palter
[turns to Mark
] Jerry Palter
: so you were talkin' to that Terry Bohner kid, in his blue sweater... Mark Shubb
: All I said was, 'Oh my goodness, isn't it warm?' Nothing about the set. Jerry Palter
: Well, it's gettin' warmer now...
: All right, I don't think finger-pointing is gonna help us here, I... I think it's very clear what we do. Jerry Palter
: What's that? Mark Shubb
: I'm going to suggest we be bold. Jerry Palter
: Yeah, let's hear it... Mark Shubb
: We open with Wandering. Jerry Palter
: Did you miss the last couple of minutes? They're currently butchering...
[to Alan briefly
] Jerry Palter
: Turn it back up again. Do you... you wanna hear it?
: We give the audience a choice. We say, you can enjoy 'a toothpaste commercial', or do you wanna hear folk music? Jerry Palter
: I think they'll have already brushed their teeth by that time; It's not even germane. Alan Barrows
: Well, here's the thing, you can't have on a bill, especially on a folk bill, you cannot have two people doing the same song. It doesn't work; they're just gonna be flat-out confused...